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Please upgrade your browser to experience the site. But like his clone "brothers", this version was also confused by visions of a past that was not his, which Vader dismissed as a dead man's memories and a side effect of the cloning procedure.

But the clone was ultimately unable to free himself from Galen Marek's memories, especially his affection for Juno Eclipse , the woman who was largely responsible for Marek's rejection of the dark side before his death. Before Vader could destroy his latest failure, the clone managed to escape from Kamino in order to find Eclipse.

He was subsequently known by his template's codename Starkiller. Around this time, however, Vader perfected the cloning process by creating a clone that surpassed all of the other imperfect replicas that came before him.

As his training progressed, the clone was began to compartmentalize Marek's memories and was able to hold them as separate from his own experiences. By freeing himself from his template's memories and having come to despise his progenitor as a "broken man" brought down by his own weaknesses, the clone was granted access to the dead body that was used to create him.

The sight of the original Starkiller helped the clone realize that the cloning process had ended with him. He was the only perfect clone of Starkiller who was meant to stand at Darth Vader's side as his Dark Apprentice.

Darth Vader reveals the body of the original Starkiller to the only perfect clone of the Secret Apprentice. According to Ni-Ke-Vanz , a former slave who possessed intimate knowledge of cloning procedures, cloning was not the key to "immortality. Clones that belong to the same genetic structure also possess differences from each other. They are not the same people, just different versions of the same template.

Darth Vader confirmed Ni-Ke-Vanz's assertions on cloning when he revealed some of the reasons behind the failures of various clones of Galen Marek. While Marek's clones possessed the problematic memories and emotions of the original Secret Apprentice, some characteristic traits were inherently more dominant than others in each clone. Some were haunted by the memory of Marek's father, Kento Marek , while others were affected by the young boy that Marek had once been before his tutelage under Vader.

The greatest challenge was to create a clone who could avoid an identity crisis by holding his memory imprints as separate from his own experience.

In Starkiller's case, he became completely fixated on Juno Eclipse, but spared little to no feelings over other things such as his progenitor's father or even the Rebel Alliance. He dismissed everything else as irrelevant in comparison to his fixation on Eclipse, nor could he comprehend the idea that any clone of Vader's original apprentice could be distracted by something else other than Marek's love for the woman who was the most responsible for his redemption.

A cloning center operating during the Galactic Civil War. Similar to Spaarti cylinders in that they produced mature clones in a very short period of time, the cloning tanks were tended to completely by droids. The facility appeared to indiscriminately clone any being who entered it, collecting genetic material and even scanning the minds of those beings so that the clones could be implanted with memories.

As a result, the clones were completely under the illusion that they were the individuals that they had been cloned from. The exact purpose behind this facility was not discovered. Darth Vader himself came to believe the technology found was what remained of research done by the ancient Jedi into cloning, however, it is unknown if there is any truth to this.

A young clone of Emperor Palpatine, serving as a temporary vessel for the Sith Lord's spirit. At some point in his life, the Sith Lord Darth Sidious sought to discover a way to extend his lifetime in the hopes of avoiding death. Though his ambition ran contrary to the teachings of Darth Bane , who emphasized the importance of the Sith Order over the individual, Sidious had little intention of being succeeded by a Sith apprentice long after he had established his rule as emperor of the Galactic Empire.

Thus, he looked to the science of cloning as a possible solution to his dilemma as early as the late phase of the Clone Wars. He had hoped that her achievements as a cloner would yield some sort of discovery on how to extend his own life. Darth Sidious's desire to extend his lifetime gradually developed into an obsession to live forever, causing him to develop a powerful sense of paranoia over death.

Nevertheless, he finally discovered a way to cheat death, but at a great price. Through his new-found Force power , Essence Transfer , Sidious literally had the power to project his spiritual consciousness into another body. While still alive in his original body, Sidious secretly commissioned a large batch of clones that were based on his own genetic template.

The clones were kept in stasis and maintained on the planet Byss in the Deep Core of the galaxy. However, the Dark Lord of the Sith was forced to pay a heavy price for immortality. In the Telos Holocron, he lamented on the shortcomings of cloning. Due to the fact that clones were one step removed from the natural life process itself, they were easily susceptible to the damaging side effects of the dark side.

A living being of natural birth had a difficult challenge of trying to control the dark side, but was ultimately doomed to experience the lethal consequences of being heavily immersed in the dark side's energies after a long period of time. A clone's body was almost utterly defenseless against the negative aspects of the dark side, thus subjecting the clone to rapid aging and decay.

Thus, he was forced to duplicate his body many times in order to transfer his spirit from one clone body to another as each host swiftly decayed under the unbearable pressure of the dark power that became intertwined with Sidious' own spirit. Up until the year 4 ABY , over two decades into his reign as emperor, Sidious never had the opportunity to test his experiment. But at the decisive Battle of Endor , the Emperor was betrayed and killed by his apprentice on the second Death Star.

Though Vader was fatally wounded in the attempt, he succeeded in killing Darth Sidious, thus bringing an end to the Order of the Sith Lords. With his mortal flesh destroyed, the Dark Lord's spirit endured the maddening experience of being disembodied. After painstaking efforts, he succeeded in reaching Byss where he entered one of his clone bodies.

By awakening as the young man that he once was, Sidious achieved his great desire to avoid death, even if his clone bodies were only a short-term solution. Due to the fact that the clones could only sustain their progenitor's life force for barely even a year before experiencing complete destabilization, the Kaminoan process for engineering mature clones was out of the question.

The Dark Lord needed many adult versions of himself on standby in order to consistently transfer his spirit into another temporary host again and again, thus forcing him to depend completely on Spaarti technology. For six years after his first death, Sidious allowed the Galaxy to believe that he was dead. In all that time, he concealed his existence on Byss, all the while constantly enduring the painful experience of dying and transferring his soul into another clone of himself.

It seems doubtful that when people criticize human cloning on the grounds that we'd be "playing God" that what is really bothering them is that it is "unnatural" because a there's nothing new about that and b very few people would, if pressed, advocate that we should live totally "natural" lives whatever that would mean.

Since most people don't have as negative a reaction to the use of artificial insemination, fertility drugs or IVF technology to create a child as they do to the idea of creating a human being through cloning, it isn't just the use of modern technology to assist in the creation of human life which bothers them.

Perhaps it is felt that we'd be "playing God" more by creating a child through cloning than, say, IVF because we would be creating a particular child. Instead of a process by which "you get what you get," cloning seems to make it possible to create exactly the person you want. There are two problems, however, with this view. First, it assumes that children created in other ways have whatever qualities they have by chance.

We must simply wait to see what we get. But that certainly is no longer true. Couples considering creating a child through sexual intercourse can find out quite a bit about the probable and, in some cases, certain qualities of their prospective children. And artificial insemination and IVF technologies enable people to increase the odds that a child will have certain qualities or won't have certain negative qualities. Furthermore, IVF technology makes it possible to decide which embryo s to implant after a DNA analysis is performed so it is already possible to choose to bring a particular child or even identical twins into existence.

If this is not yet feasible, it surely will be soon. It is even possible, with preimplantation diagnosis PID to implant one identical twin and freeze the other for future use, if the parents like the way the first one turned out.

This is very close to the results of cloning. Second, it is assumes that one can know exactly what a person created through cloning would be like. But this is just not true. We know, as a result of studies of identical twins "natural" clones reared apart, that one's experiences, one's environment plays a role in determining what a person becomes.

We may be able to make some predictions about what a clone will ultimately turn out to be like, but we will not be able to predict everything about what this person will be like because no other person has had, or will have, this person's life experiences. I don't really understand how we'd be "playing God" in a substantially stronger sense if we were to clone human beings than, say, create them through IVF technology.

People are concerned that allowing the cloning of human beings could lead to the ultimate avenue of expression of people's supposed tendency towards "narcissism and megalomania" : "Make me my heir. It also shows that there is a confusion between "exactly similar" and "identical". To clone an adult human being through somatic cell nuclear transfer and implantation the technique used to create Dolly would necessarily create a considerably younger person rather than an identical twin a person of the same age who has the same DNA.

This person would necessarily grow up in a different environment, since, at the very least, the "times" would be different. And, as has already been noted, we have learned from the studies of identical twins reared apart that environmental factors do make a difference.

So there is no reason to think that one's clone would turn out to be exactly like oneself. Even if it were possible to duplicate a person's upbringing such that the person's clone would turn out to be exactly similar, it would not be that same person. There are three general philosophical theories of personal identity, that is three views which specify criteria for A and B being considered to be the same person, and one's clone would not be considered to be the same person as oneself under any of these theories.

The first general theory of personal identity uses a bodily criterion. A is said to be the same person as B if they have the same body, or crucial body part e. The second theory of personal identity maintains that A and B can be said to be the same person if they have the same underlying mental substance what laymen call "soul". Assuming that human beings do have non-material souls, there is no reason to think that one's clone will have the same soul as oneself, not any more than in the case of identical twins.

The third, and probably the most popular theory in philosophical circles, maintains that A and B can be said to be the same person just in case there is causally explained overlap between the mental experiences of the two.

The legions of clone troopers that made up the Grand Army of the Republic may have been cut from the same cloth in the labs of Kamino, but they were all different. Even though they likely went through equal training, learned how to use the same weapons, and ate identical meals, they all came out the other side as individuals. They may have been more driven to emphasize their unique qualities in order to distinguish themselves from their hundreds of thousands of brothers.

That uniqueness led to some classic quotes, and here are six of the best. They were manufactured to be warriors.

Given the high number of clones the Kaminoans created, mistakes and miscalculations were bound to happen.



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